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Talk:Middlebrow Literature

2012-04-19T07:31:53Z

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Can you still paste your notes here? Thank you very much! Best, [[User:Root|Root]] 00:08, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

===Comment 1===
The examples section may look clearer if you reformat it by separating the novels a bit more.

And please delete the �. --[[User:Meh|Meh]] 07:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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I really like your picture, and the information is very good. That is all.--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 07:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Novel 'Water Margin'

2012-04-19T07:03:11Z

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===Comment 1===
Add a few pictures perhaps?
Very nice otherwise.
--[[User:Meh|Meh]] 05:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

a couple pictures would be nice but i love the chinese charaters Alchemsit1330

==comment==
I would standardize the headings with normal text(not all caps). Otherwise it looks great but yeah a picture of the book would be wonderful.--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 07:03, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:The predecessors of newspapers

2012-04-19T07:01:38Z

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Add some Pictures and Fix your title with proper capitalization. [[Alchemist1330]]

===Comment 2===
*Some pictures would be nice - if there are any, that is.
*Maybe separate the works cited sections a bit more from the rest of your text?
--[[User:Meh|Meh]] 05:04, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

===comment 3===
I'm just curious, what exactly does "The first successful Chinese-language newspaper was published in Hong Kong in 1864." mean? Were there other not successful newspapers?
It looks great but rather short. This is understandable because there isnt really much to say about it. Maybe better structure or clearer text? --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 07:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Yuan Literature I

2012-04-19T06:59:19Z

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=3 Major Elements=
Because of the Yuan’s unique political situation (for example succession was a major issue: caused lots of struggle) there is a perceivable change in Chinese literature. However, because the dynasty was so short we can only notice its effects afterwards.
The language in these texts are more focused on performance. Either simple classical chinese, or the colloquial “imitating ordinary speech”.

*Maturation of colloquial literature
**Widespread in Song – print circulation

*No longer stuck to civil examinations
**Free from certain sets of writing.
**Fu > no longer lufu
**Poetry > more lyrical

*Ethnic Writers
**Produced many classical and popular forms.

= Groups vs. Persons=
Valley between the classical canon and new colloquial literature: In the past, we could use them to structure a literary history. However, now we only find groups, such as FOUR GREAT POETS OF THE YUAN. Or POETRY SOCIRTY OF MOON SPRING. And the Three Elders of Dragon Mountain. Because the dynasty was so short, there was no rise of any single true genius, rather the Yuan liked to discuss forms of literature (both hybrid and popular). You see, colloquial songs were considered nonserious literature, and did not have the same process of review, discussion, and selection.

We have to look at what was happening at the time, rather then what it was based on.

*Popular Stories:
-- Plain stories: “pinghua”. Just historical narratives., northern plays (zaju),
Souther dramas (sanqu).
 
*Readers faced issues:
-- Colloquial literature does not follow the same rules of preservation and
Euphemism.
 
*Literature (especially poetry) faced constant change.
-- Later dynasties often re-did works, and reflected the language and idealology of the editors rather then the original authors.
= Assimilation of literature?=
Court infighting happened previously- advisors would argue if something was ethical or not. Mongols weren’t too concerned about the Chinese official’s weird obsession with writing. They were barely literate.

Funny story about Sangha, a smart but power hungry minister that was later purged/killed. Later, some high court officials tried to exile another minister on charges that they wrote a “poem eulogizing Sangha in the most profuse language!”. Khubilai responded on “what crime did he commit?? “

The examinations was a critical backbone of the education system and the typical path to social and political power. Over the years it was reintroduced on a small scale then later abused, then removed totally. It devolved into techinical skills rather then classics and poetry.

Now, inorder to rise in politics it was all based on patronage and personal recommendations. The examinations and fu were a very important part of Confucianism. It was thought that Confucian scholars were hated and treated poorly during this time, but no evidence supports this. The Confucian ideals at the time were really just to pacify the people.

Disestablishment of examinations: 
''“Was the Jin lost because of Confucianism?” – Khubilai'' 
For the scholars it was terrible! But for literature it was good!
Writing was no longer paired with its most important use: arguably: success in examinations.
= Yuan Literature=
107 years by the time the Jin dynasty fell.
Jin Writers – north style.
End of Jin – shift to Tang poetry style. Not Song.

Yuan Haowen was a major influence in the north; he emerged from the collapse of the Jin as a major figure in three ways: 
1) He wrote very very good poetry. – Called poetry of Loss and chao. Maybe comparable to Du Fu! 
2) Traveled and compiled a very important historical work: The Miscellaneous Compilation of Events of the Renchen Years –now lost. 
Last, he had a huge influence over the first generation of northern writers in Yuan. There are two attributes to this. He was a local hero –contemporary influence on the formation of writers from Shanxi.
House arrest after fall of Jin caused him to become a famous teacher.

=References=
Powerpoint [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/images/4/45/ChineseLiteraturechapter7.pptx Presentation] 
1. Our book, pages: 575 599

Yuan Literature I

2012-04-19T06:46:22Z

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Yuan Literature I

2012-04-19T06:45:40Z

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=3 Major Elements=
Because of the Yuan’s unique political situation (for example succession was a major issue: caused lots of struggle) there is a perceivable change in Chinese literature. However, because the dynasty was so short we can only notice its effects afterwards.
The language in these texts are more focused on performance. Either simple classical chinese, or the colloquial “imitating ordinary speech”.

*Maturation of colloquial literature
**Widespread in Song – print circulation

*No longer stuck to civil examinations
**Free from certain sets of writing.
**Fu > no longer lufu
**Poetry > more lyrical

*Ethnic Writers
**Produced many classical and popular forms.

= Groups vs. Persons=
Valley between the classical canon and new colloquial literature: In the past, we could use them to structure a literary history. However, now we only find groups, such as FOUR GREAT POETS OF THE YUAN. Or POETRY SOCIRTY OF MOON SPRING. And the Three Elders of Dragon Mountain. Because the dynasty was so short, there was no rise of any single true genius, rather the Yuan liked to discuss forms of literature (both hybrid and popular). You see, colloquial songs were considered nonserious literature, and did not have the same process of review, discussion, and selection.

We have to look at what was happening at the time, rather then what it was based on.

*Popular Stories:
-- Plain stories: “pinghua”. Just historical narratives., northern plays (zaju),
Souther dramas (sanqu).
 
*Readers faced issues:
-- Colloquial literature does not follow the same rules of preservation and
Euphemism.
 
*Literature (especially poetry) faced constant change.
-- Later dynasties often re-did works, and reflected the language and idealology of the editors rather then the original authors.
= Assimilation of literature?=
Court infighting happened previously- advisors would argue if something was ethical or not. Mongols weren’t too concerned about the Chinese official’s weird obsession with writing. They were barely literate.

Funny story about Sangha, a smart but power hungry minister that was later purged/killed. Later, some high court officials tried to exile another minister on charges that they wrote a “poem eulogizing Sangha in the most profuse language!”. Khubilai responded on “what crime did he commit?? “

The examinations was a critical backbone of the education system and the typical path to social and political power. Over the years it was reintroduced on a small scale then later abused, then removed totally. It devolved into techinical skills rather then classics and poetry.

Now, inorder to rise in politics it was all based on patronage and personal recommendations. The examinations and fu were a very important part of Confucianism. It was thought that Confucian scholars were hated and treated poorly during this time, but no evidence supports this. The Confucian ideals at the time were really just to pacify the people.

Disestablishment of examinations: 
''“Was the Jin lost because of Confucianism?” – Khubilai'' 
For the scholars it was terrible! But for literature it was good!
Writing was no longer paired with its most important use: arguably: success in examinations.
= Yuan Literature=
107 years by the time the Jin dynasty fell.
Jin Writers – north style.
End of Jin – shift to Tang poetry style. Not Song.

Yuan Haowen was a major influence in the north; he emerged from the collapse of the Jin as a major figure in three ways:
1) He wrote very very good poetry. – Called poetry of Loss and chao. Maybe comparable to Du Fu!
2) Traveled and compiled a very important historical work: The Miscellaneous Compilation of Events of the Renchen Years –now lost.
Last, he had a huge influence over the first generation of northern writers in Yuan. There are two attributes to this. He was a local hero –contemporary influence on the formation of writers from Shanxi.
House arrest after fall of Jin caused him to become a famous teacher.

=References=
Powerpoint [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/images/4/45/ChineseLiteraturechapter7.pptx Presentation] 
1. Our book, pages:

Yuan Literature I

2012-04-19T06:44:51Z

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=3 Major Elements=
Because of the Yuan’s unique political situation (for example succession was a major issue: caused lots of struggle) there is a perceivable change in Chinese literature. However, because the dynasty was so short we can only notice its effects afterwards.
The language in these texts are more focused on performance. Either simple classical chinese, or the colloquial “imitating ordinary speech”.

*Maturation of colloquial literature
**Widespread in Song – print circulation

*No longer stuck to civil examinations
**Free from certain sets of writing.
**Fu > no longer lufu
**Poetry > more lyrical

*Ethnic Writers
**Produced many classical and popular forms.

= Groups vs. Persons=
Valley between the classical canon and new colloquial literature: In the past, we could use them to structure a literary history. However, now we only find groups, such as FOUR GREAT POETS OF THE YUAN. Or POETRY SOCIRTY OF MOON SPRING. And the Three Elders of Dragon Mountain. Because the dynasty was so short, there was no rise of any single true genius, rather the Yuan liked to discuss forms of literature (both hybrid and popular). You see, colloquial songs were considered nonserious literature, and did not have the same process of review, discussion, and selection.

We have to look at what was happening at the time, rather then what it was based on.

*Popular Stories:
-- Plain stories: “pinghua”. Just historical narratives., northern plays (zaju),
Souther dramas (sanqu).
 
*Readers faced issues:
-- Colloquial literature does not follow the same rules of preservation and
Euphemism.
 
*Literature (especially poetry) faced constant change.
-- Later dynasties often re-did works, and reflected the language and idealology of the editors rather then the original authors.
= Assimilation of literature?=
Court infighting happened previously- advisors would argue if something was ethical or not. Mongols weren’t too concerned about the Chinese official’s weird obsession with writing. They were barely literate.

Funny story about Sangha, a smart but power hungry minister that was later purged/killed. Later, some high court officials tried to exile another minister on charges that they wrote a “poem eulogizing Sangha in the most profuse language!”. Khubilai responded on “what crime did he commit?? “

The examinations was a critical backbone of the education system and the typical path to social and political power. Over the years it was reintroduced on a small scale then later abused, then removed totally. It devolved into techinical skills rather then classics and poetry.

Now, inorder to rise in politics it was all based on patronage and personal recommendations. The examinations and fu were a very important part of Confucianism. It was thought that Confucian scholars were hated and treated poorly during this time, but no evidence supports this.

=References=
Powerpoint [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/images/4/45/ChineseLiteraturechapter7.pptx Presentation] 
1. Our book, pages:

Yuan Literature I

2012-04-19T06:40:46Z

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=3 Major Elements=
Because of the Yuan’s unique political situation (for example succession was a major issue: caused lots of struggle) there is a perceivable change in Chinese literature. However, because the dynasty was so short we can only notice its effects afterwards.
The language in these texts are more focused on performance. Either simple classical chinese, or the colloquial “imitating ordinary speech”.

*Maturation of colloquial literature
**Widespread in Song – print circulation

*No longer stuck to civil examinations
**Free from certain sets of writing.
**Fu > no longer lufu
**Poetry > more lyrical

*Ethnic Writers
**Produced many classical and popular forms.

= Groups vs. Persons=
Valley between the classical canon and new colloquial literature: In the past, we could use them to structure a literary history. However, now we only find groups, such as FOUR GREAT POETS OF THE YUAN. Or POETRY SOCIRTY OF MOON SPRING. And the Three Elders of Dragon Mountain. Because the dynasty was so short, there was no rise of any single true genius, rather the Yuan liked to discuss forms of literature (both hybrid and popular). You see, colloquial songs were considered nonserious literature, and did not have the same process of review, discussion, and selection.

We have to look at what was happening at the time, rather then what it was based on.

*Popular Stories:
-- Plain stories: “pinghua”. Just historical narratives., northern plays (zaju),
Souther dramas (sanqu).
 
*Readers faced issues:
-- Colloquial literature does not follow the same rules of preservation and
Euphemism.
 
*Literature (especially poetry) faced constant change.
-- Later dynasties often re-did works, and reflected the language and idealology of the editors rather then the original authors.
= Assimilation of literature?=
Court infighting happened previously- advisors would argue if something was ethical or not. Mongols weren’t too concerned about the Chinese official’s weird obsession with writing. They were barely literate.

Funny story about Sangha, a smart but power hungry minister that was later purged/killed. Later, some high court officials tried to exile another minister on charges that they wrote a “poem eulogizing Sangha in the most profuse language!”. Khubilai responded on “what crime did he commit?? “

The examinations was a critical backbone of the education system and the typical path to social and political power. Over the years it was reintroduced on a small scale then later abused, then removed totally. It devolved into techinical skills rather then classics and poetry.

Now, inorder to rise in politics it was all based on patronage and personal recommendations. The examinations and fu were a very important part of Confucianism. It was thought that Confucian scholars were hated and treated poorly during this time, but no evidence supports this. The Confucian ideals at the time were really just to pacify the people.

Disestablishment of examinations:
''“Was the Jin lost because of Confucianism?” – Khubilai''
For the scholars it was terrible! But for literature it was good!
Writing was no longer paired with its most important use: arguably: success in examinations.

=References=
Powerpoint [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/images/4/45/ChineseLiteraturechapter7.pptx Presentation] 
1. Our book, pages:

Talk:Literary Societies

2012-04-19T06:33:42Z

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===Comment===
*There is a weird dotted box around a sentence towards the bottom of the page.
*The large picture of 4 men sort of cut your article...
Great work~ --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 04:21, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

===Comment 2===
*The picture in the "Jiangxi School" section kind of cut your next sextion...
*There is a � in the "Banana Garden Poetry Club" section.
*There is a empty dotted box just before the References.
Otherwise it looks great~ --[[User:Meh|Meh]] 05:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

===comment san===
The Modern Chinese Literary Societies section needs some structure to it. But the rest looks great!--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 06:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Literary Societies

2012-04-19T06:31:41Z

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Talk:The development of oral literature forms

2012-04-19T06:28:14Z

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I would add a picture or to to give it a more airy and proffesional look. Also i'm not sure if the all caps titles are working. Alchemsit1330

I would add a * list or something for the HUABEN section... maybe the sections need to be lengthened. --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 06:28, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Feng Menglong

2012-04-19T06:26:26Z

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I like the structure. I don't really see anything that needs to be added... Maybe sources? --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 06:26, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Classical Chinese Literature

2012-04-19T06:25:10Z

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[https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/index.php/uvu:Community_Portal Click here to learn how to use this Wiki.] [[User:Root|Root]] 11:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

= Announcements =
'''The wiki will be graded on W 4/18/2012 11:59 p.m. Please make sure that all articles are up. [[Special:Upload]]'''

= Beginnings =
* [[The development of oral literature forms]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 13:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC) [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/index.php/File:CHIN_LIT_-5.pptx]

== Xia Dynasty ==
Mythical dynasty before the invention of script.

== Shang Dynasty ==
* The emergence of script - Oracle Bones (turtle shells, scapula - cow shoulder blades)
* The emergence of Written Literature (1200 BC)

== Zhou Dynasty and Warring States Period ==
* [[Confucius]] -- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 05:36, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Mencius]] -- [[User:Delon Lier|Delon Lier]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489162/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]
* [[The 5 Canonized Classics]] -- [[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 04:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

== Han Dynasty ==
* [[Cai Yong]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489270/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]
* [[Songs from India]] -- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

== 16 Kingdoms and 6 Dynasties ==
* [[Tao Yuanming - Manuscript Culture]] -- [[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 23:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

= The Golden Age =
== Tang Dynasty ==
* [[Examples of authors unknown in their lifetime, but famous after their death]] -- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 02:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
* [[Du Fu]] (712 - 770) [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/images/d/da/Du_Fu_%28wiki%29.pptx Powerpoint presentation] -- ''Mid Term Paper'' -- [[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 20:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
* [[Li Bai]] -- ''Mid Term Paper'' -- [[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 22:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Song Dynasty ==
* [[Ouyang Xiu]] -- ''Mid Term Paper'' -- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Su Shi (Su Dongpo)]] -- ''Mid Term Paper'' -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 17:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

= The Foreign Dynasties Liao (Khitan), the Jin (Jurchen) and the Yuan (Mongols) =
== Yuan ==
* [[Yuan Literature I]] -- [[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 05:53, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
* [[Yuan Literature II]] -- [[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 04:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

= Ming Dynasty =
* [[Literary Societies]] -- Delon L
* [[Ming Literature I]] -- Delon L
* [[Ming literature]] -- [[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 04:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
* [[The predecessors of newspapers]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 21:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC) [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/index.php/File:CHIN_LIT_-4.pptx]
* Novel 'Plum in a Golden Vase / The Golden Lotus' -- Licia K
* [[Novel 'Journey to the West']] -- [[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 04:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
* [[Novel 'Water Margin']] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 22:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
* [[Feng Menglong]] -- [[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 04:42, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

= Preview: Qing (Manchu)-Dynasty =
* [[Middlebrow Literature]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489082/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

= Timeless Presentations =

* [[Canonization of Chinese Literature in the East and West]] -- ''Mid Term Paper'' -- [[User:Delon Lier|Delon Lier]]
* [[Writing with your own blood]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 03:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Saying A and meaning B - Several examples of double layer literature]] -- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 02:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
* [[Which emperor had killed close relatives to ascend the throne?]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 22:13, 15 April 2012 (UTC) [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/index.php/File:CHIN_LIT_-2.pptx]
* [[Poetry Genres]] [https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/images/4/43/Poetry_Genres.pptx Powerpoint presentation] -- [[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 19:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Examples of authors unknown in their lifetime, but famous after their death

2012-04-19T06:24:45Z

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I really like this page I would add picture you used from your power point though. Alchemist1330

I think you should add a citation for the first poem you quoted. [[User:Dei|Dei]] 03:24, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

You could mention the fact that for much of Chinese history, writers didn't publish their works while they lived, so that many works were only brought to light after the author died. And maybe give a short explanation for why this was, and when this changed. [[User:Dei|Dei]] 03:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

It would be nice to have answers maybe at the bottom of the page or something. Seems very linear and long, design-wise --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 06:24, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Mencius

2012-04-19T06:23:01Z

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Dear Delon, please paste your reading in turn notes here. [[User:Root|Root]] 00:03, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

=comment=
My eyes hit a wall of text and now are bruised. --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 06:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Li Bai

2012-03-05T07:06:37Z

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==Author's Note==
# I'm really trying to get my sources tight- if you notice anything that you think should have a citation next to it, please tell me so!
# Quality over quantity! I know its rather short: if you think it should be longer just say so.
#I just have to say so myself, I think my topic is hilarious.
Thanks,
--[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 07:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Good Start- it sounds like reading your paper is going to be a lot of fun- totally suitable "voice" for your poet.
Be sure to double check you spelling though- right after saying you might be of Turkish descent, you say "My probably" instead of "I". Simple mistake; a good proofreading will take care of that.[[User:Dekeo|Dekeo]] 06:02, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

==Aclhemist1330==

Please talk about your death and horn growing story it was the highlight off your whole presentation and capture the voice of a drunkard in some areas.
I really like the lay out and flow make sure you have refences

== looking good ==

You don't have to worry about any of your sources. You were very thorough. I don't think the length of your paper is a problem. Being able to make a concise argument in a short amount of space is a good thing. Still, making the paper longer won't hurt you if you are worried about your grade and are still working on this paper. [[User:Name|Name]] 04:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Comment ? ==
The sources look fine. Considering yours is solid text and not poem fillers, the length is of no problem. More pictures would be nice though~ --[[User:Whatisthis|Whatisthis]] 06:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== interesting! ==

I would expand on his poetry more, although that isn't really your topic. Maybe cite the second picture better. I would add a few more pictures actually. No errors, but can't hurt to double check. --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 07:06, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Canonization of Chinese Literature in the East and West

2012-03-05T03:44:32Z

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Dear Delon, you really still need to work on this paper! Can you add some more text and indicate the sources? Thanks! [[User:Root|Root]] 00:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC) 
Dear Root:
There seems to be a difference between the page linked in the Classical Literature page ([https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/index.php/Canonization_of_Chinese_Literature_in_the_East_and_West| here]) and the page attached to this discussion ([https://wiki.vm.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/uvu/index.php/Canonization_of_Chinese_Literature_in_the_East_and_West|here].) I hope this makes sense.--[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 01:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
:I do not know what your links link to, both are dead links, but I guess the technical problem is solved now. If you have an alternative title to a Wiki article, please use the redirect function. The different links seem to direct to old versions of the article, which have been moved and redirected, when the title was corrected. Best [[User:Root|Root]] 01:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
::Now the full version of the article is visible. I have deleted the draft and redirected the old articles name. [[User:Root|Root]] 02:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

=MLA standard=
Dear Delon, please use MLA standard instead of footnotes. It should look like this:

instead [1] [2] [3]

(Stordalen 2008, Sun 2007, Wang 2004)

And please also link to Arnold Q's article about the 5 classics. Thanks! [[User:Root|Root]] 02:15, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Well done old chap. ==

I enjoyed this article very much! There are still errors to be corrected but I am sure you will iron those out in no time. I like the discussion on Ideology a lot and it is very well done. I also like the picture placement! I do not see any further adjustments necessary. 
Thanks, --[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 03:44, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Du Fu

2012-03-05T03:39:40Z

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Good start, I'm impressed- your English writing is quite good. Just a word of advice, double check your spelling ( I have trouble with that too!). I corrected a couple of errors for you ("poets" instead of "poems" etc,).

I like the "tone" of your paper so far. It easy to imagine Du Fu really sitting here talking. I hope you can keep it up in the rest of the paper.[[User:Dekeo|Dekeo]] 05:56, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Have you decided on an argument yet? One option is that you could argue about what had the strongest affect on Du Fu's writing; Taoism, Buddhism, his travels, other poets, personal experiences, or the Classics. You could contrast Du Fu with other poets of the time to prove how he was unique and a rebel, or you could compare him to other poets to show that he wasn't too different. You could try explaining why you think he wasn't popular during his lifetime and why he became popular later. You could argue that he was the best poet, or point out his flaws. You could even do a combination of these things. [[User:Name|Name]] 08:02, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

===Alchemist1330===
I generally like it so far. for your aurument you can analize a poem of your ffrom your point of view like WANTONG not Du Fu and support your claims. bye bye... black bird

== comment ==

I would <3 a picture. Or two. Or five. x3
But I love your tone and it is written very well, just needs meat on its bones.
You will hear more from me later!--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 03:39, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Su Shi (Su Dongpo)

2012-03-05T03:36:51Z

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I suggest that you add in titles to separate information
like this.

==Title==
but you don't have to

but overall it looks great, also make sure you use in text citations in addition to your list of refrences at the bottom and i would sugest instead of writting (source Edgar pg. 34) just have (Edgar pg. 34) you don't need to say source but it is really up to you.

Alchemist1330

== Comment 2 ==

I think you should make the poems clearer, as in "cleaner"? Like right now it seems to blend in with the rest of the text, I think it should be more distinctive.
Thanks,
--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 04:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== '''Proof Read!''' :) ==
1- You need to be sure to put a space before your source otherwise the parentheses are connected to the last word of the section you are citing.

2- Spelling and grammar errors are easier to spot after you take a break. I'm pretty sure you will spot what I'm talking about right away if you go to your paper now and try reading it out loud.

3- And, how about an argument? This is a nice autobiography, but, well, we were asked to defend something. Of course, it looks like you aren't finished yet- maybe the argument is still to come- right? [[User:Dekeo|Dekeo]] 06:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== My Thesis Statement ==

Thanks for the advice, guys! My Thesis statement will be "I was an ordinary man whose greatest talent came from the desire to try what nobody else has attempted, without being tied down to the expectations of the time." Kind of a weird thesis,I know, but this is what I think of Su Shi, so that is what I will try to argue. Try and read my paper with this in mind. :) [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 17:43, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== Comment 4==
The stuff about what 'you' did is nice, but how are they things "nobody else has attempted?" As in, I don't know what other people normally did so I don't recognize what 'you' did as different, if this makes sense. --[[User:Whatisthis|Whatisthis]] 21:01, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== More from me ==

I really like your "A Renaissance Man" section, its very beautiful and well done. 
Its rather lengthy (of course not in a bad manner) and I also like how well your references was alphabetized! 
I would like to see more citations, and I believe some of them aren't done correctly... 
Thanks,--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 03:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Ouyang Xiu

2012-03-05T03:34:12Z

Checksum:

Hello!

The poem, White Egret, seems to have every other line in a giant box. I don't think this is what you intended! I'll post more comments when they arise. Thanks~

--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 18:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I really like the style, it is very comforting and nice. I think you need to length some segments. You said you'll talk about how you were a writer and literary critic but that didn't really develop well. There is also a broken picture, I'm sure you'll fix that in no time. Besides that I'm really liking how its going.
--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 03:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Instead of a simple list of facts, I think your paper should read more like an essay, with full sentences and paragraphs. [[User:Name|Name]] 07:51, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, what is your thesis statement? I think it would be good if you put your thesis in the introduction, and then tried to carry it into each of your sections, and then made a final conclusion combining your mini conclusions from each sections. [[User:Name|Name]] 07:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm working on it- My thesis statement is still a little vague but it is in there- just not in the intro- next section. Hopefully, by the time I finish, the argument will seem clear. Right now, I think there will be two "conclusions" one for the first person part and one for the over all paper- and there, I plan to recap the paper's argument. Thanks for your suggestions.I need all the help I can get! [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 08:47, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

1. Licia, can you tell me what page in the textbook it says that Su Shi liked to write about manly things? Do you remember it saying that? It wasn't in the first section labeled Su Shi, but in a section afterwards I think.

2. Can you find where it says that Su Shi argued to keep one of Wang Anshi's reforms?

3. Is there a simple description of Su Shi's writing style? I want to say that he writes mainly autobiographically and also looks outside instead of just introspectively, but my internet souces aren't helping me too much on this.

If you can find me any of these things, I would greatly appreciate it. And Professor Woesler should give you 100% for helping others. ;) Thanks! [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 18:48, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

==Alchemist1330==
maybe add in a little section that you argue something with, i'm not sure what or maybe have a section by you that you analyze one of his peoem and support your claims, which i think is an argument.
anyway like it allot. If you want you can have more picture but i like the airy look.

Li Bai

2012-03-04T08:21:07Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works,and my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of me.]]
I was born in the year 701. Where, you ask? This has been a controversy for more than a millennium. While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. I am probably from a mercantile family. (Eide 370)

My family dwelt in what is now Gansu. Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. In 705 my family secretly moved to beautiful Sichuan (famous for its gigantic mountains and wonderful natural scenery), where I spent my childhood. (Wu 57)

I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts. (Eide 373)

In 761, Du Fu wrote this particular poem about me: (Wu 58)
<blockquote>''I have not seen Li Po for a long time-- 
''What a pitiable man with his feigned madness! 
''All the world wants to kill him: 
''I alone dote on his genius. 
''Quick-witted, he has hit off a thousand poems; 
''A waif in the world, his only home is in a cup of wine. 
''O my friend! 'Tis time to return to Ku'ang Shan, 
''Where you used to read books with such gusto.''</blockquote>
From this we can gather I used to study books in Ku'ang Shan, a mountain lying near the city of Chengtu.

I enjoyed taming birds and sword play. I was quite proficient in martial arts. 
By the time I was twenty, I had killed with my own hands several persons for chivalrous causes. ('''Author's note:''' Take that with a lump of salt. Could not be confirmed elsewhere). (Wu 58)
<blockquote>''“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.”'' -- Li Bai [Wu 58]</blockquote>

Around 725 I left home and became a wanderer. I sailed around, a truly wild spirit. I married the granddaughter of a retired Prime Minister, but even she (Hsu Hsin-shih, try saying that three times fast) could not tame me.
In 735, I wandered to Shansi, where one of the most important events of my life happened. Here I met Kuo Tzu-i, a humble soldier. I saved him from a court-martial by simply speaking to the commander.

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling O. ''On Li Po.'' New Haven: Yale UP, 1973. Print.

2. Wu, Jingxiong. ''The Four Seasons of Tʻang Poetry,.'' Rutland, VT: C.E. Tuttle, 1972. Print.

Talk:Canonization of Chinese Literature in the East and West.

2012-03-04T08:12:34Z

Checksum: Oh my goodness I am brain dead

Hi. Looks good, but needs to be longer and have more argumentation in it. Please add sources of pictures and tell us exactly, which passage comes from which of the 3 references indicated. Thank you very much! [[User:Root|Root]] 00:06, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Make sure you source more and i would clean it up a bitt into more uniform blocks and make sure the pictures are contained within thier own section they seem to over lap. Alchemist1330

Good advice from the others. Now, for my two cents worth of comments. Watch out for "passive" sentences. I'll explain what I mean. Your first sentence talks about how Chinese cannon "has had" many different... Those "be" verbs (have had, would have done, had been done, was influenced, etc.) are prime indicators of a passive sentence. Try re-writing it with active verbs.

"The evolution of China’s literary canon ''has had'' (passive "be" verb) many different factors contributing to its formation." thus becomes " Many different factors ''contributed'' (active verb) to the evolution and formation of China's literary canon." Your sentences will flow better and sound more natural if you write with active verbs.

Also, be sure to double check your spelling and capitalization- "China" for example, should always be capitalized. I look forward to reading the final paper. [[User:Dekeo|Dekeo]] 06:23, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== Comment 2 ==

Great paper. I would fix the spelling errors. One thing: there appears to be large quotations (such as in Politics and Ideology) that don't seem to be attributed to anyone. 
Thanks, 
--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 08:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Li Bai

2012-03-04T07:52:57Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of me.]]
* I was born in the year 701. Where, you ask? This has been a controversy for more than a millennium.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu. Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. In 705 my family secretly moved to beautiful Sichuan (famous for its gigantic mountains and wonderful natural scenery), where I spent my childhood. (Wu 57)
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. I am probably from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play. I was quite proficient in martial arts.
<blockquote>“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]</blockquote>

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling O. ''On Li Po.'' New Haven: Yale UP, 1973. Print.

2. Wu, Jingxiong. ''The Four Seasons of Tʻang Poetry,.'' Rutland, VT: C.E. Tuttle, 1972. Print.

Li Bai

2012-03-04T06:16:35Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of me.]]
* I was born in the year 701.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu.
* Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. (Wu 57)
* In 705 my family secretly moved to Sichuan, where I spent my childhood.
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. I am probably from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play.
<blockquote>“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]</blockquote>

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling O. ''On Li Po.'' New Haven: Yale UP, 1973. Print.

2. Wu, Jingxiong. ''The Four Seasons of Tʻang Poetry,.'' Rutland, VT: C.E. Tuttle, 1972. Print.

Li Bai

2012-03-04T06:16:08Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]
* I was born in the year 701.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu.
* Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. (Wu 57)
* In 705 my family secretly moved to Sichuan, where I spent my childhood.
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. I am probably from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play.
<blockquote>“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]</blockquote>

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling O. ''On Li Po.'' New Haven: Yale UP, 1973. Print.

2. Wu, Jingxiong. ''The Four Seasons of Tʻang Poetry,.'' Rutland, VT: C.E. Tuttle, 1972. Print.

Li Bai

2012-03-04T06:15:52Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]
* I was born in the year 701.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu.
* Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. (Wu 57)
* In 705 my family secretly moved to Sichuan, where I spent my childhood.
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. I am probably from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play.
<blockquote>“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]</blockquote>

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling O. On Li Po. New Haven: Yale UP, 1973. Print.

2. Wu, Jingxiong. The Four Seasons of Tʻang Poetry,. Rutland, VT: C.E. Tuttle, 1972. Print.

Li Bai

2012-03-04T06:00:05Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]
* I was born in the year 701.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu.
* Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. (Wu 57)
* In 705 my family secretly moved to Sichuan, where I spent my childhood.
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. My probably came from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play.
<blockquote>“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]</blockquote>

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling (1973). "On Li Po", in Perspectives on the T'ang. New Haven, London: Yale University Press, 367-403.

2. Wu, John C. H. (1972). The Four Seasons of Tang Poetry. Rutland, Vermont: Charles E. Tuttle. 50-68

Li Bai

2012-03-04T05:36:21Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]
* I was born in the year 701.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu.
* Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. (Wu 57)
* In 705 my family secretly moved to Sichuan, where I spent my childhood.
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. My probably came from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play.
“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling (1973). "On Li Po", in Perspectives on the T'ang. New Haven, London: Yale University Press, 367-403.

2. Wu, John C. H. (1972). The Four Seasons of Tang Poetry. Rutland, Vermont: Charles E. Tuttle. 50-68

Li Bai

2012-03-04T05:35:16Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, my immortality.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]
* I was born in the year 701.
* My family dwelt in what is now Gansu.
* Evidence suggests that my family was banished during the Sui Dynasty, (due to a crime) and thus moved from Gansu. (Wu 57)
* In 705 my family secretly moved to Sichuan, where I spent my childhood.
While where I was born is not entirely known, the brashness and bravado of my poetic voice are characteristics of poets from this region. (Wu 66)
* There are theories that I could have been of Turkish decent. My probably came from a merchant family. (Eide 370)
* I read everything! Of course I read the Confucian Classics, but I also read things normal scholars abstained from, such as astrological and metaphysical texts.
*I enjoyed taming birds and sword play.
“When I was fifteen, I was fond of sword play, and with that art I challenged quite a few great men.” -- Li Bai [Wu 58]

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===
1. Eide, Elling (1973). "On Li Po", in Perspectives on the T'ang. New Haven, London: Yale University Press, 367-403.
2.

Talk:Su Shi (Su Dongpo)

2012-03-04T04:53:43Z

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Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:56:52Z

Checksum:

I am also known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, and more.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:56:38Z

Checksum:

I am known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, and more.

Let us begin!
=Life=
[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|right|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]

=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

=== References:===

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:56:30Z

Checksum:

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:52:58Z

Checksum:

[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|left|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]

I am known as '''Li Po'''.

Welcome to my page, for I am about to bring you on an incredible journey through my life, my works, and more.

Let us begin!
=Life=
=Poetry=
=Topic: Immortality=

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:49:42Z

Checksum:

[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|left|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]

- Also known as '''Li Po'''
==Life==
==Poetry==
==Topic: Immortality==

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:48:49Z

Checksum:

- Also known as '''Li Po'''

[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|left|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|A painting of Li Bai.]]

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:45:43Z

Checksum:

=Li Bai=
- Also known as '''Li Po'''

[[File:LiBai.jpg|thumb|left|alt=A painting of Li Bai.|''[[Li Bai]]''.]]

File:LiBai.jpg

2012-03-04T01:44:02Z

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Picture is in public domain, taken by unknown.

Li Bai

2012-03-04T01:38:02Z

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=Li Bai=
- Also known as '''Li Po'''

Classical Chinese Literature

2012-03-04T01:36:51Z

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== Announcements ==
'''Good news! Powerpoint files can now be uploaded directly using [[Special:Upload]]'''

== Oral Literature ==
== The emergence of script ==
== End of Shang: Written Literature (1200 BC -) ==

== Zhou Dynasty and Warring States Period ==
* [[The 5 Canonized Classics]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 04:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
* [[Tao Yuanming - Manuscript Culture]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 23:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
=== Confucius: Analects ===
* [[Confucius]]-- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 05:36, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Mencius (372–289 BCE) ===
* [[Mencius]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489162/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

== The Han Dynasty ==
* [[Cai Yong]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489270/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

== The Tang Dynasty ==
* [[Midterm Report - Du Fu]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10495890/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation] --[[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 20:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
* [[Midterm Paper - Li Bai]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 22:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== The Song Dynasty ==
* [[Mid term paper Ou Yang Xiu]] [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Su Shi (Su Dongpo)]] [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 17:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

=Diachronic Letters=
* [[Midterm Report: Canonization of Chinese Literature in the East and West]] [[User:Delon Lier|Delon Lier]]
* [[Middlebrow Literature]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489082/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]
* [[Writing with your own blood]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 03:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Songs from India]] [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Classical Chinese Literature

2012-03-04T01:36:20Z

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== Announcements ==
'''Good news! Powerpoint files can now be uploaded directly using [[Special:Upload]]'''

== Oral Literature ==
== The emergence of script ==
== End of Shang: Written Literature (1200 BC -) ==

== Zhou Dynasty and Warring States Period ==
* [[The 5 Canonized Classics]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 04:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
* [[Tao Yuanming - Manuscript Culture]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 23:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
=== Confucius: Analects ===
* [[Confucius]]-- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 05:36, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Mencius (372–289 BCE) ===
* [[Mencius]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489162/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

== The Han Dynasty ==
* [[Cai Yong]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489270/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

== The Tang Dynasty ==
* [[Midterm Report - Du Fu]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10495890/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation] --[[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 20:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
* [[Midterm Report - Li Bai]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 22:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== The Song Dynasty ==
* [[Mid term paper Ou Yang Xiu]] [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Su Shi (Su Dongpo)]] [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 17:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

=Diachronic Letters=
* [[Midterm Report: Canonization of Chinese Literature in the East and West]] [[User:Delon Lier|Delon Lier]]
* [[Middlebrow Literature]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489082/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]
* [[Writing with your own blood]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 03:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Songs from India]] [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Classical Chinese Literature

2012-03-04T01:36:11Z

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== Announcements ==
'''Good news! Powerpoint files can now be uploaded directly using [[Special:Upload]]'''

== Oral Literature ==
== The emergence of script ==
== End of Shang: Written Literature (1200 BC -) ==

== Zhou Dynasty and Warring States Period ==
* [[The 5 Canonized Classics]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 04:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
* [[Tao Yuanming - Manuscript Culture]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 23:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
=== Confucius: Analects ===
* [[Confucius]]-- [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 05:36, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Mencius (372–289 BCE) ===
* [[Mencius]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489162/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

== The Han Dynasty ==
* [[Cai Yong]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489270/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]

== The Tang Dynasty ==
* [[Midterm Report - Du Fu]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10495890/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation] --[[User:Wantong|Wantong]] 20:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
* [[Midterm Report- Li Bai]] --[[User:ArnoldQ|ArnoldQ]] 22:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== The Song Dynasty ==
* [[Mid term paper Ou Yang Xiu]] [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Su Shi (Su Dongpo)]] [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 17:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

=Diachronic Letters=
* [[Midterm Report: Canonization of Chinese Literature in the East and West]] [[User:Delon Lier|Delon Lier]]
* [[Middlebrow Literature]] [https://learn-uvu.uen.org/courses/98968/files/10489082/download?wrap=1 Powerpoint presentation]
* [[Writing with your own blood]] -- [[User:Alexis Sagen|Alexis Sagen]] 03:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
* [[Songs from India]] [[User:Licia K|Licia K]] 06:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The 5 Canonized Classics

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==History==

* These five books, or parts of them, were either commented, compiled, or edited by Confucius himself. [1]

* Recent scholarship suggests, that Confucius did not write them.[2]

* However, Confucius did use the Shijing and the Shujing or Shangshu for learning exercises with his disciples.[3]

== I Ching ==
* The oldest manuscript that has been found, albeit incomplete, dates back to the Warring States Period.

* Traditionally, the I Ching and its hexagrams were thought to be before recorded history.

* It is suggested that the earliest layer of the text may date from the end of the 2nd millennium BC, but place doubts on the mythological aspects in the traditional accounts.

* Not the work of one or several legendary or historical figures.

* Is an accumulation of Western Zhou divinatory concepts.

* During the Warring States Period, the text was re-interpreted as a system of cosmology and philosophy

* Focused on the ideas of the dynamic balance of opposites, the evolution of events as a process, and acceptance of the inevitability of change.

* The heart of early Chinese philosophical thought, serving as a common ground for the Confucian and Taoist schools.

* ''I Ching'' had two distinct functions.
** A compendium and classic of ancient cosmic principles.
**Used as a divination text. In this case, used by marketplace fortune tellers and roadside oracles. These individuals served the illiterate peasantry.
=== Hexagrams ===

* 64 sets of the grid – many types.

* Each hexagram is accompanied with a description, often cryptic, akin to parables. Each line in every hexagram is also given a similar description.

* Article: ''Explication de l'Arithmétique Binaire'' (1703) Gottfried Leibniz : he found in the hexagrams a base for claiming the universality of the binary numeral system.
** Hexagrams possibly represented the binary sequences, so that ¦¦¦¦¦¦ would correspond to the binary sequence 000000 and ¦¦¦¦¦| would be 000001, and so forth.

== Spring and Autumn Annals ==

Because it was traditionally regarded as having been compiled by Confucius (after a claim to this effect by Mencius), it was included as one of the Five Classics of Chinese literature.

* Formed by various chroniclers from the State of Lu.

* The scope of events recorded in the book is quite limited.

* The focus is on various feudal states' diplomatic relations, alliances and military actions, as well as births and deaths among the ruling families.

* The chronicle also takes note of natural disasters such as floods, earthquakes, locusts and solar eclipses.

* Events are narrated in chronological order, dated by the reign-year of the Duke of Lu, the season, the month and the day.

* The annalist structure is followed strictly, to the extent of listing the four seasons of each year even when no events are recorded.

* The style is terse and impersonal, and gives no clue as to the actual authorship!

==Classic of Rites==

* It described the social forms, governmental system, and ancient/ceremonial rites of the Zhou Dynasty (c. 1050–256 BCE).

* "The Burning of the Books." This occurred in 213 BCE when most traditional books were burned with the exception of books on war, medicine, astrology, agriculture, and divination.

* Some Confucian scholars had memorized the Classics and thus transmitted the Classics to their disciples who in turn recorded them in manuscripts.

* These disciples recorded each of the Classics from memory but the Classic of Music (Yuejing) could not be recompiled. However, a chapter in the Classic of Rites is the Record of Music (Yueji), which was derived from the lost Classic.

* The Classic of Rites was rewritten and edited by Confucius' disciples after the "Burning of the Books."

* Other scholars have attempted to shorten these scripts.
** Dai De who reworked the text in the 1st Century BCE, reducing the original 214 books to 85.
** Was later further reduced by his younger brother Dai Sheng to 46 books, to which three were added towards the end of the Han Dynasty, bringing the total to 49.

== Classic of History==
* The Classic of History was compiled between the 6th and 4th centuries BC, and reportedly included over 100 chapters.

* Many citations of its content can be found in the bamboo slips texts from the tombs of Guodian, in Hubei, dated to around 300 BC.

* Many copies of the work were destroyed in the Burning of Books during the Qin dynasty.

The book has four writing forms:
# "codes" - the documentation of law codes and statutes;
# "written admonitions" - the conversations between emperors and ministers and those between ministers, as well as prayers at sacrificial rituals;
# "pledges" - the pledges made by emperors and vassals;
# "mandates" - the imperial mandates emperors made when appointing officials or rewarding vassals.

* The language of these documents is quite archaic, closely resembling inscriptions found on Western Zhou bronzes.

==Classic of Poetry==

* ''The Odes'' provided founding principles in composition and rhyme that were patterned by Chinese writers for well over two thousand years, and are thus a seminal influence on Chinese Classical poetry.

* ''The Odes'' preserve the descriptions of daily life among the ancient Chinese culture of the Yellow River watershed.

* Many of the poems are about basic human problems such as love, marriage, work, and war.

* Although the Shijing does not specify the names of authors in association with the contained works we have hints.

* The Odes became an important and controversial force, influencing political, social and educational phenomena.

==Copy of Powerpoint==

[https://www.box.com/s/p4edltjhq00o5fiorhml Can be found here]

== References ==

1. Terrace, Gloucester. "Statistical Notices of China." ''The Gentleman's Magazine'' Apr. 1833: 291-93. Print.

2. Creel, H., 1949, ''Confucius'', Harper.

3. Heinz, Carolyn B. ''Asia, A New Introduction'', Waveland Press. 1997

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Hello!

Your poem, White Egret, has additional boxes around lines. I don't think that was intended.
I'll comment more later!

Thanks,
--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 00:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Tao Yuanming

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== Life ==
[[File:330px-'Tao Yuanming', ink on paper scroll by Min Zhen, 18th century china.jpg|thumb|Tao Yuanming, by Min Zhen,from 18th century China.]]
* Born in 365(CE) in Chaisang to a prominent southern noble family.

* Served many civil and military posts, but none of high position.
** Last position was of county magistrate at Pengze (not far from hometown).

* During this period of service in a series of minor posts, Tao Yuanming's poems begin to indicate that he was becoming torn between ambition and a desire to retreat into solitude.

* One source states that Tao was the first Chinese poet to grapple with the justification of my decision to withdraw from office. [Nienhauser, 193]

* In 405 my sister died. This in addition with my disgust at the corruption and infighting of the Jin Court lead me to resign.

* I had become convinced that life was too short to compromise on my principles.
** The last 22 years of my life I lived in retirement.

* I have a personal inclination towards a private life of leisure and spontaneity.

* Considered "Neo-Taoist".

== Poetry ==

First, what is reclusion?
Here is a great quote from Fredrick Mote:

<blockquote>"in Chinese society... [terms designating recluses] signified withdrawal from the active
public life in the service of society that Confucian ethics prescribed as the most suitable
course for all whose abilities, cultivation, and learning qualified them for it. To bar one's gates
and earn one's own living without reliance on the emolument of office, to display
a lack of regard for the social status which could be attained only by entering
officialdom, and to devote one's life to self-cultivation, scholarship or artistic pursuits
made one a recluse." [Swartz 79]</blockquote>

* I was not the first to write about reclusion. I had significant influence though: I transformed stock images and normal vocabulary into highly personalized poetry.
** I alluded to the "here and now" any my particular circumstance rather then generic gentleman reclusion. This made my poems very autobiographical, but not in the normal objective sense. (Chang, Owens 222)
** This made quite the impact, for future poems and fu's began to have short prefaces before them, also explaining the author's circumstance around the composition.(Chang, Owens 222)

* I also introduced many new topics in my poetry, such as: (Chang, Owens 222)
**Begging
**Moving
**Encountering a fire
**Harvesting dry rice

*I was also the first to introduce calendar dates in my extremely long poem titles, something which has become a common practice. (Chang, Owens 221)

* ''The Peach Blossom Spring''
** One of my very influential works.
** Quick Summary: A fisherman stumbles upon a hidden utopia. Its citizens are unaware of the outside world, and are quite satisfied where they are.

== References: ==

1. William H. Nienhauser, Jr.
Reviewed work(s):
Tao Yuanming and Manuscript Culture: The Record of a Dusty Table by Xiaofei Tian
Chinese Literature: Essays, Articles, Reviews Vol. 28, (Dec., 2006), pp. 191-195

2. Kang-i Sun Chang, Stephen Owen, eds., The Cambridge History of Chinese Literature 2 volume set (Hardcover), 1704 pages, Cambridge University Press; 1st ed. March 31, 2010.

3. Swartz, Wendy. "Rewriting a Recluse: The Early Biographers' Construction of Tao Yuanming." Chinese Literature: Essays, Articles, Reviews (CLEAR) 26 (2004): 77-97. JSTOR. Web. 1 Feb. 2012.

Tao Yuanming

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Talk:Ouyang Xiu

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2012-03-03T18:34:34Z

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Hello!
Th poem, White Egret, seems to have every other line in a giant box. I don't think this is what you intended! I'll post more comments when they arise. Thanks~--[[User:Checksum|Checksum]] 18:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)