Very well organized, except the first block. I think you put too much in the Childhood section. I noticed she was born in 1900, yet you included stuff all the way into the 1920's in that section. I would put the stuff from her teenage years on up into a different section. [[User:Mingemperor|Mingemperor]] 17:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

It looks good, but you have a lot more information in the first section than all the rest. I would just add more to the other sections. And I agree with the comment above.[[User:Pips|Pips]] 17:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I think that it looks really good! I noticed that you changed the childhood section to life, good call! [[User:Ellafitzgerald|Ellafitzgerald]] 13:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I enjoyed the motivations portion of the page. I thought the article was very well thought out and professionally done. --[[User:Foot|Foot]] 19:48, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

There are a few grammar and punctuation errors, another read through could help with that. Agreed, the first section needs to be broken up a bit. It reads like is should be several paragraphs not just one. Thanks for the list of her writings! And good job acknowledging the short comings of your sources. When you have so few sources, the temptation is to accept them with out question. Perhaps another "read through" would be a good idea. [[User:Dekeo|Dekeo]] 21:29, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I had no idea that she married Chen Yuan, I learned a lot about his movement in my studies I can understand why she became more political after marriage. The long lists of publications tends to look like filler text.
The article is very well written. [[User:Random1|Random1]] 01:58, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Dear Matt,

Looks really good to me, I also like your perfect photo source and license indication. Things which you may improve next time:
* A little bit longer, especially more valuing comments
* You have indicate the sources in the text, at least one per paragraph, but don't just refer to Wikipedia or the summary I gave you as a link. It is better to use the paper sources and indicate the page numbers.
Best, [[User:Root|Root]] 12:28, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

It's well-orgnized and I like it!--[[User:Mark|Mark]] ([[User talk:Mark|talk]]) 07:09, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

2016-06-10T06:56:02Z

Mark:

It's very Detaied but has a little mistake.
In the first part concerning Lu Xun's youth, you mentioned that"In his youth, Lu Xun lived comfortably in Peking (Beijing) with his family, including his grandfather [a high ranking government official]",however, it isn't right as we know Lu Xun was born and lived in Zhejiang Province, which is far away from Beijing.

Well done, very concise. [[User:Pips|Pips]] 17:33, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

It looks really good! Great format and images! [[User:Ellafitzgerald|Ellafitzgerald]] 05:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Not bad, formatting looks ok, but did it meet all the requirements? Mr. Woesler said he wanted more commentary and not just "the facts." [[User:Mingemperor|Mingemperor]] 17:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Too Short. We need deeper information on the best Chinese writer ever. Otherwise, well done. --[[User:Foot|Foot]] 20:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I though this presentation needed more preparation. I would have like to know more about the author. Reddragon.

Nice introduction to an influential writer that we, in the U.S. ought to know more about. You mention "many pen names" but don't list any of them. It might help someone who would like to find some of his works.[[User:Dekeo|Dekeo]] 19:56, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Dear Maranda, looks really great for your first Wiki article. However, you might want to consider the following for your next paper:
* It can still be a little bit more elaborated.
* Lu Xun's main topic in life was "doubt". Maybe you can add something about this
* The pen name hint is a good one, you may add more here too.
* I appreciate very much that you still extended your paper after Mingemperor's comment that it should contain more own commentary. [[User:Root|Root]] 11:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

It's very detaied but has a little mistake.
In the first part concerning Lu Xun's youth, you mentioned that"In his youth, Lu Xun lived comfortably in Peking (Beijing) with his family, including his grandfather [a high ranking government official]",however, it isn't right as we know Lu Xun was born and lived in Zhejiang Province, which is far away from Beijing.

Talk:Lu Xun (1881-1936)

2016-06-10T06:55:05Z

Mark:

2016-06-10T06:20:10Z

Mark:

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= Emergence of modern Chinese literature =

= Historical and cultural background late Qing =
* Genre development in China, scholars as authors, Mandarin & Butterfly School
* Cao Xueqin, The Story of the Stone, also known as The Dream of the Red Chamber, 1791, transl. David Hawkes, John Minford

= Encounter with the West, Westernization =
* Wu Jianren, New Story of the Stone, utopian novel
* Liang Qichao, Accounts of the future of new China, utopian fragment
* Secondary Literature:
** Wang, David Derwei. Fin-de-siecle Splendor: Repressed Modernities of Late Qing Fiction, 1849-1911. Stanford: Stanford UP, 1997.
** Wang, David Derwei. “Translating Modernity.” Pollard, David E., ed. Translation and Creation: Readings of Western Literature in Early Modern China, 1840–1918. Amsterdam: John Benjamins, 1998. 303-330.
** Wang Dun (王敦). “The Late Qing’s Other Utopias: China’s Science-Fictional Imagination, 1900-1910”, in: Concentric: Literary and Cultural Studies 34.2, September 2008: 37-61
** John Fitzgerald, The Unfinished History of China's Future, in: Thesis Eleven 1999 57:17, here pp. 21-23, http://the.sagepub.com/content/57/1/17

= May Fourth iconoclasm - Historical and cultural background May Fourth =
* Liang Qichao, Foreword to the Publication of Political Novels in Translation, Denton 71-73
* Hu Shi, Some modest proposals for the Reform of Literature, D1996:123-139

= The role of translations and translators =
* Yan Fu
* Lin Shu
* the earliest translations [unpublished ppt presentation_woesler.pptx, paper: woesler_early_translations_of_german_literature_into_chinese_final.doc, paper]
* the selection process and intention of translations

= Discovery of the alienated Self – World Literature =
* McDougall and Louie, 1-185; focus on pages 1-30
* [[Lu Xun (1881-1936)]] Beween activism and self-doubt - the development of Lu Xun [[User:Maranda|Maranda]] 21:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC) and 21:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
** Lu Xun: Preface to the first collection of Short Stories "Call to arms" 1922 (LG:3-7), A Madman's Diary 1918 (LG:8-16), Kong Yiji 1919 (LG:17-21)
** Further information: http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/denton2/courses/c503/mad.htm, http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/denton2/courses/c503/kong.htm
** "Hometown" http://www.coldbacon.com/writing/luxun-calltoarms.html#Home [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion]

= Living to see the Western literary epochs in Chinese time lapse. The Literary societies and May Fourth Romanticism =
* Required reading: http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/denton2/publications/research/soc.htm
* Further reading: Literary Societies of Republican China. Edited by KIRK A. DENTON and MICHEL HOCKX. Lanham, Md.: Lexington Books, 2008. ix, 591 pp.
* Crescent Moon
* Creation Society
* Yu Dafu, "Sinking" 1921 [31-55], Xu Zhimo's poems 1925-1930 [499-501]
* [[Guo Moruo (1892 -1978)]] [[User:DavidSmith|DavidSmith]] 21:40, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
** Guo Moruo: “The hound of heaven” 1920

= Literature of the 1930s =
*[[Qian Zhongshu (1910 – 1998)]] [[User:Ericaangie]] 13:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
** Self-selected excerpts from Qian Zhongshu, "Fortress besieged" 1947

= Women writers =
* Literature of the Megacities - The inner life of Shanghainese women writers with a focus on Zhang Ailing
* [[Zhang Ailing(1920-1995)]] -- [[User:Mark]] 15:15, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
* [[Ling Shuhua (1900-1990)]] [[User:Mattstrock|Mattstrock]] 21:22, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
* Ling Shuhua, "The Night of Mid-Autumn Festival" [95-102];
*[[ Xiao Hong (1911-1942)]] [[User:PhilipHarding|PhilipHarding]] 03:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
* Xiao Hong, "Hands" [161-73]; "On the Oxcart" [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion]
* [[Zhang Jie (born 1937)]][[User:Ericaangie|Ericaangie]] 18:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

= The fall: Authors yoke their literature for a deceiving ideology. Lu Xun’s proud ox bows his head not only for children, but now also for party action =
* Lu Xun’s ambiguous attitude towards taking physical action, towards the impact of literature on society and towards serving an ideology with literature.
* Mao's claim of Lu Xun

= The socialist era, Yan'an Literature and Rectification =
* Mao Zedong, Poems, Talks in Yan'an: Literature and Art for the Masses and the Use of Traditional Forms, 1938, D1996:433-435
* Ding Ling, "When I Was in Hsia Village" [132-46]
* Mao Dun and "Spring Silkworms" [56-73]

= Authors in transition: From Revolutionary Romanticism to Reform Literature =
* [[Wang Meng]] by Maranda 21:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
* Wang Meng, Long Live [the] Youth!
* Wang Meng, Hard Porridge, trans. by Chen Zishan
* [[Ba Jin]] [[User:PhilipHarding|PhilipHarding]] 21:43, 4 December 2012 (UTC): Family and the self-censorship in the later edition

= On different paths: Bing Xin, Zhang Jie =
* [[Bing Xin]]
* Zhang Jie: Heavy Wings
* [[Zhang Jie: Kid From The Forest]]

= Chinese Modernism and the Aesthetic =
* McDougall and Louie, 189-321; focus on pages 189-207
* Shi Zhicun, "One Evening in the Rainy Season" [115-24]
* Regional literature
* Shen Congwen, "Xiaoxiao" [82-94]
* "Meijin, Baozi, and the White Kid" [in China: A Traveler's Liteary Companion]

= Post-Revolutionary Literature; Cultural Revolution =
* "Red Detachment of Women" [Film Viewing]

= Post-Mao Literature, Scars and realism, Roots literature =
* McDougall and Louie, 325-448; focus on pages 325-44
* Liu Heng, "Dogshit Food" [366-78]; scars literature
* Yan Lianke, "Black Bristle, White Bristles" [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion]
* [[The Scar Literature After "the Cultural Revolution"]]

= Master narrators Mo Yan, Yu Hua, Jia Pingwa, Wang Shuo =
* [[Mo Yan]] 莫言 by Corinne B.
: His story: "Old Gun" [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion], novel 生死疲勞 "Life and Death are Wearing me out"
* [[Yu Hua]], "Brothers" by David 06:48, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
* Jia Pingwa
* Wang Shuo

= Contemporary Women authors =
* Bi Shumin (毕淑敏), 女儿拳 Women’s boxing, 女心理师 The female psychologist

= Avant-garde literature and post-socialist present =
* Su Tong, "Escape" [445-54];
* Yu Hua, "On the Road at Eighteen" [439-44]
** modern Chinese literary life, such as publishing in journals and newspaper supplements, working within literary societies or associations, and dealing with censorship
* Gu Cheng, Mang Ke, Bei Dao: Poets of the Obscure School since the 1980s

= Taiwan literature =
* Zhang Dachun, "Lucky Worries About His Country" (403-416)
* Zhu Tianwen, "Fin de Siècle Splendor" [388-402]

= Longing for something literature I: Historicizing, II: Tibet Exotism =
* Yu Dan 于丹, 《论语》心得 Confucius in your heart, Yi Zhongtian (易中天)
* Alai

= Megacity Literature II - Peking and Vagabound Literature =
* Xu Zechen (徐则臣), 跑步穿过中关村 Peking double quick
* Liu Zhenyun (刘震云), 我叫刘跃 The pickpockets

= Between cult and celebrity =
* Cult author Guo Jingming
** Book series "Bestseller"
** Guo Jingming (郭敬明), 悲伤逆流成河 Cry me a sad river
* Cult author Mian Mian
** Mian Mian (棉棉), 声名狼籍 Panda Sex

= Critical surrealist Han Han, young authors =
* [[Han Han]] by Matt S.
:Triple door
:His Land

= Blog, Web and Fan literature =
* Blogs (blog literature?), from web to paper literature
* Ai Weiwei, Han Han, Annie Baobei

= Fan literature =
* Web literature portal qidian.com

Modern Chinese Literature

2016-05-25T07:14:45Z

Mark: /* Women writers */

= Emergence of modern Chinese literature =

= Historical and cultural background late Qing =
* Genre development in China, scholars as authors, Mandarin & Butterfly School
* Cao Xueqin, The Story of the Stone, also known as The Dream of the Red Chamber, 1791, transl. David Hawkes, John Minford

= Encounter with the West, Westernization =
* Wu Jianren, New Story of the Stone, utopian novel
* Liang Qichao, Accounts of the future of new China, utopian fragment
* Secondary Literature:
** Wang, David Derwei. Fin-de-siecle Splendor: Repressed Modernities of Late Qing Fiction, 1849-1911. Stanford: Stanford UP, 1997.
** Wang, David Derwei. “Translating Modernity.” Pollard, David E., ed. Translation and Creation: Readings of Western Literature in Early Modern China, 1840–1918. Amsterdam: John Benjamins, 1998. 303-330.
** Wang Dun (王敦). “The Late Qing’s Other Utopias: China’s Science-Fictional Imagination, 1900-1910”, in: Concentric: Literary and Cultural Studies 34.2, September 2008: 37-61
** John Fitzgerald, The Unfinished History of China's Future, in: Thesis Eleven 1999 57:17, here pp. 21-23, http://the.sagepub.com/content/57/1/17

= May Fourth iconoclasm - Historical and cultural background May Fourth =
* Liang Qichao, Foreword to the Publication of Political Novels in Translation, Denton 71-73
* Hu Shi, Some modest proposals for the Reform of Literature, D1996:123-139

= The role of translations and translators =
* Yan Fu
* Lin Shu
* the earliest translations [unpublished ppt presentation_woesler.pptx, paper: woesler_early_translations_of_german_literature_into_chinese_final.doc, paper]
* the selection process and intention of translations

= Discovery of the alienated Self – World Literature =
* McDougall and Louie, 1-185; focus on pages 1-30
* [[Lu Xun (1881-1936)]] Beween activism and self-doubt - the development of Lu Xun [[User:Maranda|Maranda]] 21:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC) and 21:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
** Lu Xun: Preface to the first collection of Short Stories "Call to arms" 1922 (LG:3-7), A Madman's Diary 1918 (LG:8-16), Kong Yiji 1919 (LG:17-21)
** Further information: http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/denton2/courses/c503/mad.htm, http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/denton2/courses/c503/kong.htm
** "Hometown" http://www.coldbacon.com/writing/luxun-calltoarms.html#Home [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion]

= Living to see the Western literary epochs in Chinese time lapse. The Literary societies and May Fourth Romanticism =
* Required reading: http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/denton2/publications/research/soc.htm
* Further reading: Literary Societies of Republican China. Edited by KIRK A. DENTON and MICHEL HOCKX. Lanham, Md.: Lexington Books, 2008. ix, 591 pp.
* Crescent Moon
* Creation Society
* Yu Dafu, "Sinking" 1921 [31-55], Xu Zhimo's poems 1925-1930 [499-501]
* [[Guo Moruo (1892 -1978)]] [[User:DavidSmith|DavidSmith]] 21:40, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
** Guo Moruo: “The hound of heaven” 1920

= Literature of the 1930s =
*[[Qian Zhongshu (1910 – 1998)]] [[User:Ericaangie]] 13:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
** Self-selected excerpts from Qian Zhongshu, "Fortress besieged" 1947

= Women writers =
* Literature of the Megacities - The inner life of Shanghainese women writers with a focus on Zhang Ailing
* [[Zhang Ailing]] -- [[User:Mark]] 15:11, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
* [[Ling Shuhua (1900-1990)]] [[User:Mattstrock|Mattstrock]] 21:22, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
* Ling Shuhua, "The Night of Mid-Autumn Festival" [95-102];
*[[ Xiao Hong (1911-1942)]] [[User:PhilipHarding|PhilipHarding]] 03:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
* Xiao Hong, "Hands" [161-73]; "On the Oxcart" [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion]
* [[Zhang Jie (born 1937)]][[User:Ericaangie|Ericaangie]] 18:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

= The fall: Authors yoke their literature for a deceiving ideology. Lu Xun’s proud ox bows his head not only for children, but now also for party action =
* Lu Xun’s ambiguous attitude towards taking physical action, towards the impact of literature on society and towards serving an ideology with literature.
* Mao's claim of Lu Xun

= The socialist era, Yan'an Literature and Rectification =
* Mao Zedong, Poems, Talks in Yan'an: Literature and Art for the Masses and the Use of Traditional Forms, 1938, D1996:433-435
* Ding Ling, "When I Was in Hsia Village" [132-46]
* Mao Dun and "Spring Silkworms" [56-73]

= Authors in transition: From Revolutionary Romanticism to Reform Literature =
* [[Wang Meng]] by Maranda 21:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
* Wang Meng, Long Live [the] Youth!
* Wang Meng, Hard Porridge, trans. by Chen Zishan
* [[Ba Jin]] [[User:PhilipHarding|PhilipHarding]] 21:43, 4 December 2012 (UTC): Family and the self-censorship in the later edition

= On different paths: Bing Xin, Zhang Jie =
* [[Bing Xin]]
* Zhang Jie: Heavy Wings
* [[Zhang Jie: Kid From The Forest]]

= Chinese Modernism and the Aesthetic =
* McDougall and Louie, 189-321; focus on pages 189-207
* Shi Zhicun, "One Evening in the Rainy Season" [115-24]
* Regional literature
* Shen Congwen, "Xiaoxiao" [82-94]
* "Meijin, Baozi, and the White Kid" [in China: A Traveler's Liteary Companion]

= Post-Revolutionary Literature; Cultural Revolution =
* "Red Detachment of Women" [Film Viewing]

= Post-Mao Literature, Scars and realism, Roots literature =
* McDougall and Louie, 325-448; focus on pages 325-44
* Liu Heng, "Dogshit Food" [366-78]; scars literature
* Yan Lianke, "Black Bristle, White Bristles" [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion]
* [[The Scar Literature After "the Cultural Revolution"]]

= Master narrators Mo Yan, Yu Hua, Jia Pingwa, Wang Shuo =
* [[Mo Yan]] 莫言 by Corinne B.
: His story: "Old Gun" [in China: A Traveler's Literary Companion], novel 生死疲勞 "Life and Death are Wearing me out"
* [[Yu Hua]], "Brothers" by David 06:48, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
* Jia Pingwa
* Wang Shuo

= Contemporary Women authors =
* Bi Shumin (毕淑敏), 女儿拳 Women’s boxing, 女心理师 The female psychologist

= Avant-garde literature and post-socialist present =
* Su Tong, "Escape" [445-54];
* Yu Hua, "On the Road at Eighteen" [439-44]
** modern Chinese literary life, such as publishing in journals and newspaper supplements, working within literary societies or associations, and dealing with censorship
* Gu Cheng, Mang Ke, Bei Dao: Poets of the Obscure School since the 1980s

= Taiwan literature =
* Zhang Dachun, "Lucky Worries About His Country" (403-416)
* Zhu Tianwen, "Fin de Siècle Splendor" [388-402]

= Longing for something literature I: Historicizing, II: Tibet Exotism =
* Yu Dan 于丹, 《论语》心得 Confucius in your heart, Yi Zhongtian (易中天)
* Alai

= Megacity Literature II - Peking and Vagabound Literature =
* Xu Zechen (徐则臣), 跑步穿过中关村 Peking double quick
* Liu Zhenyun (刘震云), 我叫刘跃 The pickpockets

= Between cult and celebrity =
* Cult author Guo Jingming
** Book series "Bestseller"
** Guo Jingming (郭敬明), 悲伤逆流成河 Cry me a sad river
* Cult author Mian Mian
** Mian Mian (棉棉), 声名狼籍 Panda Sex

= Critical surrealist Han Han, young authors =
* [[Han Han]] by Matt S.
:Triple door
:His Land

= Blog, Web and Fan literature =
* Blogs (blog literature?), from web to paper literature
* Ai Weiwei, Han Han, Annie Baobei

= Fan literature =
* Web literature portal qidian.com