Talk:Confucius

New comments in Spring 2013

Dear Tara and Loren, you write this article together. Please contact each other and work well together. Loren is more concentrating on the historical part and Tara more on the literary aspect of Confucius. Root (talk) 19:55, 26 February 2013 (CET)

• Dear Loren, this is a good start, but still too short. The final version should be 7 pages. If you want to write less, you can integrate more pictures. Please make sure to indicate your source after each sentence or, if there is a whole paragraph with the same source, after each paragraph. You can indicate it like "Smith 2009:345" and in the final section "References" write the long version "Smith, Jared, Confucius revisted, Yale University Press 2009, 415 pp." In the edit mode, section headers are indicated with "=" and sub section headers with "==". In the edit mode, paragraphs need to be marked with 2 line feeds ("Enter" key). 1 Line feed will not show up as a paragraph. For additional editing tips, including how to indicate sources and how to find copyright free pictures, please refer to [1]. Good luck with your composition! Best, Root (talk) 13:16, 25 February 2013 (CET)
• Please look at the spelling error in your file name "Cunfucius.ppt". Also, the file is not complete, since it was larger than allowed. I will split it into 2 files and upload it again, as well as get rid of the side "Kong Fuzi". Please integrate your findings in the existing article. I am looking forward your midterm paper. Thank you! Root (talk) 22:00, 19 February 2013 (CET)
• Please work also on the travels of Confucius and talk about the possibility that they were made up by Mencius and why.
• Please look again through the powerpoint presentation for consistency of referring to Confucius as "I" and not as "He".

You can also explain on the slide with the names, from when on these names were used. And you can indicate (in the mid-term paper), that the use of "Kongzi" in a text helps us to date it, because dating is crucial for seeing what might be authentic and what was made up later, especially during the Han times, when they started a Confucius cult.

• Please also explain (at least in the paper) the different versions of the Analects and distinguish between the historical person Zhong Ni and the later made up sage "Kong Fuzi".
• These are just a few ideas I had when I looked at your revised presentation.
• There are also some pictures, who are not visible in my version of your ppt. It looks like you embedded them with Quicktime, but not everybody has it. So you may want to send me the pictures one by one and I can help you to input them in the presentation again the normal way (in Powerpoint using "Insert" "Graphic").Root (talk) 22:13, 19 February 2013 (CET)

Dear Tara and Loren: Great team work. The only thing I miss is the indication of the licenses of the images. Some are creative common license (abbreviated cc), others are public domain. If you could still add that, that would be wonderful! Root (talk) 18:32, 4 March 2013 (CET)

´Tara! incredibly long and thorough article. I can tell where you put most of your information because it deals with literature more directly than the historical content. I think the flow between the two aspects is pretty good. I do feel like there are a few too many pictures where some may not be needed. They seem a bit redundant and unnecessary. But the pictures are fun to look at...so if you wanted to still include them maybe create an external link with more photos with explanations of what they are or just include the link to the photo as a side comment or something. Samantha S (talk) 03:24, 1 March 2013 (CET)

I like that you have as many sources as you do, it makes the article more credible. I would do some more proof reading to make sure the wording is more coherent.Oprah wind fury (talk) 15:09, 27 February 2013 (MST)

It would be good to proofread the paragraphs; there are a few grammatical errors that appear in the article. Maybe not accurate, but I remember hearing the concept of "Wen" when I've heard others discuss Confucius, which was literary studies and the moral value of such an idea; it might be a good thing to research and add to the page. Cappuccino (talk) 08:01, 26 February 2013 (CET)

I think having a conclusion paragraph would be beneficial.--MerchantThief (talk) 02:46, 28 February 2013 (CET)

It looks pretty good. I like all the pictures you put in there. Ratu (talk) 8:36, 28 February 2013 (CET)

This was quite lengthy and very informative. My favorite part was when you mentioned about filial piety, and the golden rule, etc. I like hearing confucian philosophy. He was a smart guy. Dr who (talk) 28 February 2013 (CET)

Loren- I think considering there is so much about Confucius that is uncertain that you've done a good job! Leo1299 (talk) 03:14, 1 March 2013 (CET)

Tara - This looks amazing! Great information and nice use of pictures. Ignatius J Reilly (talk) 21:56, 1 March 2013 (CET)

old comments

Hey, it's a start...Licia K 05:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear Licia, please paste your reading in turn notes here and upload your ppt. Please make sure to include the sources, also of images. See the section on images in our instructions. Thanks! Root 00:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== I only did the presentation in the Classical Literature class. Since this article is also listed in the Traditional History class, (where the teacher did the presentation, but did not post any notes) I didn't upload the literature ppt. (I posted this in the History class section also, because, you can't have China history without Confucius! Someone had to post some sort of article about him, so I volunteered).Licia K 03:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Great pic! I think it could use a reference or two. User:Jimmerica 11:13, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Use the thumbnail adjustment on that picture. User:Alchemist1330

Comment 4

I though when the topic is a person it must be in first person? If not please ignore this. Also, the pictures kind of cut through your text. --Meh 06:40, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

== Didn't you notice? It says, at the start, that he is never supposed to have spoken of himself in first person. That is why, even though he is "speaking of himself" it is written in third person. That is also why it says, at the end, that he should maybe start to speak of himself in first person.Dekeo 20:32, 20 April 2012 (UTC)